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		<title>Comment on Online v FM by Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 12:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

I read with interest your comments on FM v Online or even DAB radio. As a general observer of radio developments in the UK and Ireland and former editor of the ukRadio.com website (now closed) I was an advocate for the development of DAB in the UK. Dab trials by the BBC started in the mid 90s and has taken some 15 years to get to a 40% penetration. The benefits of DAB by the industry in the early days was that Dab would provide better quality audio and more choice. The truth being is that most of the genre specific station struggled in the early years because of the lack of audience. Secondly multiplex owners struggled and choice to reduce bit rates to try to squeeze in as many channels as possible. However they still struggle and stations still come and go and a second national commercial multiplex failed to launch.

The point being with DAB in the UK and their economies of scale they are still finding it difficult to survive. On the other hand FM is continuing to grow with hundreds of Community licences and RSL being licenced over the last few years.

Even though Ireland was once the pioneers of great radio with stations such as Nova / Sunshine / Q102 / Kiss etc etc during the non licenced years - it seems to have been throttled since. I still don&#039;t get eh speech content requirement in modern day and also the reluctance to expand the FM band to the extent the UK has. I also get the idea that broadcasters will still take years to embrace digital audio - I think that at that stage even DAB+ will be obsolete. However I believe the internet and IP Radio is able to evolve at a quicker pace.

Broadband and wireless connectivity will improve in years to come and even though a slow starter in Ireland - some  areas have better bandwidth than our UK cousins. I am looking to launch community radio services - which will take advantage of this medium. My current biggest hurdle is to get bet rates for playing music with PPI. I do not believe they are treating internet radio stations fairly and possibly creating an FM monopoly - hopefully this will change as Wi-Fi / IP radio becomes the medium for the future.

As for DAB/DAB+ I hope that this technology progresses here in Ireland - however waiting for another 10 years for this to happen maybe too late. Who know how / where / what people will be listening too then? like who predicted in the early 80s that we would have CDs, MP3, satellite TV or mobile phones and computers that could do about everything 20 years on.

Liam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>I read with interest your comments on FM v Online or even DAB radio. As a general observer of radio developments in the UK and Ireland and former editor of the ukRadio.com website (now closed) I was an advocate for the development of DAB in the UK. Dab trials by the BBC started in the mid 90s and has taken some 15 years to get to a 40% penetration. The benefits of DAB by the industry in the early days was that Dab would provide better quality audio and more choice. The truth being is that most of the genre specific station struggled in the early years because of the lack of audience. Secondly multiplex owners struggled and choice to reduce bit rates to try to squeeze in as many channels as possible. However they still struggle and stations still come and go and a second national commercial multiplex failed to launch.</p>
<p>The point being with DAB in the UK and their economies of scale they are still finding it difficult to survive. On the other hand FM is continuing to grow with hundreds of Community licences and RSL being licenced over the last few years.</p>
<p>Even though Ireland was once the pioneers of great radio with stations such as Nova / Sunshine / Q102 / Kiss etc etc during the non licenced years &#8211; it seems to have been throttled since. I still don&#8217;t get eh speech content requirement in modern day and also the reluctance to expand the FM band to the extent the UK has. I also get the idea that broadcasters will still take years to embrace digital audio &#8211; I think that at that stage even DAB+ will be obsolete. However I believe the internet and IP Radio is able to evolve at a quicker pace.</p>
<p>Broadband and wireless connectivity will improve in years to come and even though a slow starter in Ireland &#8211; some  areas have better bandwidth than our UK cousins. I am looking to launch community radio services &#8211; which will take advantage of this medium. My current biggest hurdle is to get bet rates for playing music with PPI. I do not believe they are treating internet radio stations fairly and possibly creating an FM monopoly &#8211; hopefully this will change as Wi-Fi / IP radio becomes the medium for the future.</p>
<p>As for DAB/DAB+ I hope that this technology progresses here in Ireland &#8211; however waiting for another 10 years for this to happen maybe too late. Who know how / where / what people will be listening too then? like who predicted in the early 80s that we would have CDs, MP3, satellite TV or mobile phones and computers that could do about everything 20 years on.</p>
<p>Liam</p>
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		<title>Comment on DAB in Cars by Julius</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalradioltd.com/dab-in-cars-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1299</link>
		<dc:creator>Julius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must agree with Dusty - i have tried several cars recently with DAB, and the sound is superb! There is no way possible to get the same details into the sound with a FM-receiver.

I certainly think DAB is the future, and it seems to me that most european countries agrees!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must agree with Dusty &#8211; i have tried several cars recently with DAB, and the sound is superb! There is no way possible to get the same details into the sound with a FM-receiver.</p>
<p>I certainly think DAB is the future, and it seems to me that most european countries agrees!</p>
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		<title>Comment on UK Full Steam Ahead by Dusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh ... good old Daily Mail making another mountain out of a molehill!

What I find very interesting is the complete LACK of backlash against analogue switch off on the TV side of digital broadcasting.  The UK should have completely switched to digital by 2012 and barely a word has been said about people having to upgrade their telly&#039;s or get special Freeview boxes. Often these purchases would be the same or greater than replacing a radio!

I think the difference is the government has said - right we&#039;re doing this digital telly thing - and gone about it in an organised way.  The lack of this kind of decisive decision and the resulting ambiguity for DAB is what&#039;s getting it such bad press.

The fact DAB has gained a 25% share of all listening in an organic manner is amazing. I think once that hits the required 50% in two or three years and the government do the same for radio as they&#039;ve done for digital telly, the grumbling and backlash will stop, and we can move on to provide and more comprehensive radio platform for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh &#8230; good old Daily Mail making another mountain out of a molehill!</p>
<p>What I find very interesting is the complete LACK of backlash against analogue switch off on the TV side of digital broadcasting.  The UK should have completely switched to digital by 2012 and barely a word has been said about people having to upgrade their telly&#8217;s or get special Freeview boxes. Often these purchases would be the same or greater than replacing a radio!</p>
<p>I think the difference is the government has said &#8211; right we&#8217;re doing this digital telly thing &#8211; and gone about it in an organised way.  The lack of this kind of decisive decision and the resulting ambiguity for DAB is what&#8217;s getting it such bad press.</p>
<p>The fact DAB has gained a 25% share of all listening in an organic manner is amazing. I think once that hits the required 50% in two or three years and the government do the same for radio as they&#8217;ve done for digital telly, the grumbling and backlash will stop, and we can move on to provide and more comprehensive radio platform for all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on UK Full Steam Ahead by Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalradioltd.com/uk-full-steam-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-1280</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the middle England backlash against DAB gathering momentum???

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1292531/Motorists-face-300-digital-radio-ministers-press-ahead-FM-switch-off.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the middle England backlash against DAB gathering momentum???</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1292531/Motorists-face-300-digital-radio-ministers-press-ahead-FM-switch-off.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1292531/Motorists-face-300-digital-radio-ministers-press-ahead-FM-switch-off.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Online v FM by Dusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mick,

Short answer to your post is, yes!

There appears to be agreement all round from RTE, existing commercial operators and new independents like ourselves, that when digital fully launches here, it will be DAB+.

Cheers
Dusty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mick,</p>
<p>Short answer to your post is, yes!</p>
<p>There appears to be agreement all round from RTE, existing commercial operators and new independents like ourselves, that when digital fully launches here, it will be DAB+.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Dusty</p>
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		<title>Comment on Online v FM by mick heaphy</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalradioltd.com/online-v-fm/comment-page-1/#comment-1273</link>
		<dc:creator>mick heaphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would it not be more cost effective to go straight to dab+ now rather than going to dab and later on having to upgrade to dab+? while dab+ equipment would be more expensive, surely moving to dab and then later on down the line moving to dab+ would be an even greater cost to both the radio stations and the general public?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would it not be more cost effective to go straight to dab+ now rather than going to dab and later on having to upgrade to dab+? while dab+ equipment would be more expensive, surely moving to dab and then later on down the line moving to dab+ would be an even greater cost to both the radio stations and the general public?</p>
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		<title>Comment on DAB in Cars by Dusty</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalradioltd.com/dab-in-cars-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1262</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

I just got DAB in the car recently (JVC KD-DB101) and, though I was expecting it to be good, it actually blew me away with the quality of sound on DAB and robustness of reception.

That said I really don&#039;t think most people will notice or care.

The real draws of DAB(+) will be more choice, especially for listeners outside Dublin, and data delivery such as DLS, EPG, Slideshow and on-demand programming. Those are the areas we&#039;ll be concentrating most on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>I just got DAB in the car recently (JVC KD-DB101) and, though I was expecting it to be good, it actually blew me away with the quality of sound on DAB and robustness of reception.</p>
<p>That said I really don&#8217;t think most people will notice or care.</p>
<p>The real draws of DAB(+) will be more choice, especially for listeners outside Dublin, and data delivery such as DLS, EPG, Slideshow and on-demand programming. Those are the areas we&#8217;ll be concentrating most on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on DAB in Cars by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree with Steve on the sound quality issue. FM beats the pants off DAB (+). With a really good FM tuner the results can be spectacular. The BBC live proms broadcasts are a case in point. I dread the day when these will no longer be available on FM in Ireland, which may happen for most of us when NTL (or whatever it&#039;s called now)decides to cease it&#039;s analogue service.

With regard to cars, even if manufacturers were to start fitting DAB radios in 2014, it would take until at least 2020 to get to a point where 50% of the cars on the road were DAB equipped. Will the other 50% really be exterminated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with Steve on the sound quality issue. FM beats the pants off DAB (+). With a really good FM tuner the results can be spectacular. The BBC live proms broadcasts are a case in point. I dread the day when these will no longer be available on FM in Ireland, which may happen for most of us when NTL (or whatever it&#8217;s called now)decides to cease it&#8217;s analogue service.</p>
<p>With regard to cars, even if manufacturers were to start fitting DAB radios in 2014, it would take until at least 2020 to get to a point where 50% of the cars on the road were DAB equipped. Will the other 50% really be exterminated?</p>
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		<title>Comment on DAB+ Podcast Trial by Dusty</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalradioltd.com/dab-podcast-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike,

That article is based on a blog by Grant Goddard who is a well known detractor of DAB.

To be fair, I believe Grant has nothing against DAB itself, but rather the way it&#039;s been set up in the UK.  If you read his blog you&#039;ll notice pretty much all his posts are negative.

On the plus side, I think it&#039;s important to have people like Grant who&#039;ll counter-balance arguements made by proponents such as ourselves.

It&#039;s also a very interesting guide to mistakes made in the UK that we will not repeat when we establish DAB here in Ireland.

Cheers
Dusty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>That article is based on a blog by Grant Goddard who is a well known detractor of DAB.</p>
<p>To be fair, I believe Grant has nothing against DAB itself, but rather the way it&#8217;s been set up in the UK.  If you read his blog you&#8217;ll notice pretty much all his posts are negative.</p>
<p>On the plus side, I think it&#8217;s important to have people like Grant who&#8217;ll counter-balance arguements made by proponents such as ourselves.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also a very interesting guide to mistakes made in the UK that we will not repeat when we establish DAB here in Ireland.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Dusty</p>
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		<title>Comment on DAB+ Podcast Trial by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is an exciting development. More of that will be needed  - but check this out....it makes for grim reading.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/apr/12/dab-radio-problems</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is an exciting development. More of that will be needed  &#8211; but check this out&#8230;.it makes for grim reading.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/apr/12/dab-radio-problems" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/apr/12/dab-radio-problems</a></p>
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